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You 2:48 AM
My personal account and my business account have become locked together. I have upgraded to enterprise to gain help from support.
Workspace Support 2:48 AM
I understand you'd like to speak with an agent. I can often help resolve issues quickly. To best assist you, please provide details about your Workspace problem, including:

What specific issue are you experiencing?
Any error messages are you seeing?
What steps have you already taken to resolve the issue?
If I am unable to resolve your issue, I'll connect you with a live agent.

You 2:48 AM
"Hi. I need help untangling my accounts. My personal Google account and my Google Workspace business account have somehow become locked together under the exact same payments profile. Because they are merged, the system is completely locking me out of editing the primary contact (Brandon Schneider) or closing the payments profile to fix it. I upgraded to Enterprise specifically to get help with this. Can you please escalate this to your billing team to manually separate my personal and business payments profiles and reset my Workspace billing?"
Workspace Support 2:48 AM
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You 2:48 AM
Start a live chat with the following details.
Issue description
Personal and business Google accounts are locked together under the same payments profile.
Workspace Support 2:48 AM
Great, I’ll connect you over live chat to an agent to discuss your needs.
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Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:48 AM
Thank you for contacting Google Workspace Support. My name is Nisha and I'll be working with you today. While I read over your message, is there anything else you'd like to add? Before sharing any details, please make sure to remove any sensitive information (e.g., credit card numbers, passwords, or Government ID information).
Hi, how are you doing today?
You 2:49 AM
No, I just want to seperate my personal and my work accounts.
i'm doing fine
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:49 AM
That's good to hear.
No worries. I am here to assist you.
May I know if you want to continue with the work email address?
You 2:51 AM
fox@nooneeverywherellc.com is the Workspace account email
allaunjsilverfox@gmail.com is the personal account
"Just to give you all the details, the Workspace account email is fox@nooneeverywherellc.com and the personal account it is tangled with is allaunjsilverfox@gmail.com. I need the billing profiles separated so my personal account is no longer tied to the business billing."
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:52 AM
Got it.
You 2:52 AM
Brandon Schneider
3025 NE 44th CT
Des Moines, Iowa 50317
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:53 AM
In this case you can create a new user account and assign Admin roles to it. Then you can delete the old merged user email address.
You 2:53 AM
ok, how do i do htat?
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:54 AM
No worries. I will guide you.
Please navigate to Admin console>Menu>Directory>Users>Add new user.
You 2:55 AM
one moment
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:55 AM
Sure. Take your time.
You 2:56 AM
ok, i'm admin.google.com
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:56 AM
Please navigate to Admin console>Menu>Directory>Users>Add new user.
You 2:56 AM
and i'm on users
No license available for new user
You have reached the 1 user limit for Google Workspace Enterprise Standard. You have to purchase more licenses.
really don't want to buy another slot to just use my account
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:58 AM
Thanks for staying online. As I am from the admin team, we have limited support on this. Not to worry. We have a dedicated team, who can assist you further.
The other alternative is that you can cancel the subscription which will separate the accounts.
If you want to add a user, you will need to have an additional license.
You 2:58 AM
i prepaid an hour ago
if i cancel now, i lose that money
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 2:59 AM
In that case I can connect you to the billing team who can guide you with this.
You 3:00 AM
please do so
Google Workspace Support, Nisha 3:01 AM
Thank you for your patience. I am going to connect you with the specialized team who will be able to help you with this. One moment, please.
You 3:04 AM
understood
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Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:05 AM
Thank you for contacting Google Workspace Support. My name is Monica and I'll be working with you today. While I read over your message, is there anything else you'd like to add? Before sharing any details, please make sure to remove any sensitive information (e.g., credit card numbers, passwords, or Government ID information).
I appreciate your patience here
You 3:06 AM
No problem, It is unforunate I had to upgrade all the way to enterprise to even get support though
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:06 AM
I see. I appreciate your cooperation! I hope you're doing well. I understand that you want to increase the number of your committed licenses, is that correct?
You 3:07 AM
No........Not correct.
I have a personal account that got eaten by having a workspace account
And it got caught in a self-referential loop
so now, i have no personal email and i can't detach my personal payment settings
I rather enjoyed my email, as its over 12 years old
not to mention my google voice number was from the BETA
it also decided to cancel my association with my credit card
so.....
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:10 AM
I completely understand your situation and thank you for your clarification on this
Can you please let me know what is your main goal here so I can help you way better?
You 3:11 AM
Ideally? Seperate the workspace from my personal
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:13 AM
Got it! I see that the previous agent advised you that in order that you can create a new user account under the domain nooneeverywherellc.com and assign Admin roles to it. Then you can delete the old merged user email address under this account with that you can separately use the personal and business Google accounts
No worries, I'll assist you with this and to provide further assistance
You 3:13 AM
And having to pay for a second seat for a database bug is..........not acceptable.
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:16 AM
I completely understand that, please know that this is only a temporary workaround. One you have purchased the 2nd licenses, you can then assign the admin roles to it, once done, you can then delete the old merged user email address (we have a dedicated team for this)
Once everything is resolved, they can then transfer your case back to us so that we can proceed to reduce the number of your licenses as Google's one time exemption
You 3:17 AM
a. If you create a new admin and then delete the old "merged" user, you risk permanently nuking your 12-year-old personal Gmail account and your legacy Beta Google Voice number. When an account is deleted from the Google Workspace Admin console, it wipes the data associated with that user profile.
Again, As a customer, I don't feel it should fall on my shoulders for a bad design.
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:22 AM
I completely understand that. To better assist you and ensure you receive the most effective support, we have a dedicated team that specializes in this type of concern. They are in the best position to clarify and discuss regarding your concerns
You 3:23 AM
ok, lets do that then
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:23 AM
However, if you want to proceed with purchasing licenses, here are the steps: 1. Navigate your Admin Console. 2. Billing. 3. Subscription 4. Click on your current subscription 5. Under the plan details page 6. You will see " Under licenses" 7. Click "purchase more"
Thanks for confirming! Before I proceed with the transfer, please allow me 3 to 5 minutes to complete the necessary documentation. This step is important to make sure that all relevant information is accurately recorded for a smooth handover.
You 3:26 AM
"Sounds good, thank you. I'll stay on the line."
Google Workspace Support, Monica 3:30 AM
I appreciate your patience here. I have completed the documentation. Kindly be informed that I will now initiate the transfer of this chat session to the dedicated team. Please remain connected, as this will help avoid any interruptions in communication.
You 3:30 AM
thank you
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Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:32 AM
Thank you for contacting Google Workspace Support. My name is Mary Grace and I'll be working with you today. While I read over your message, is there anything else you'd like to add? Before sharing any details, please make sure to remove any sensitive information (e.g., credit card numbers, passwords, or Government ID information).
Thank you for reaching out to us today. Before we proceed, could you please provide your active phone number and email address where we can reconnect with you in case our chat gets interrupted?
You 3:32 AM
No, just trying to ratchet up the chain
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:36 AM
I understand.I went over the previous chat and I understand that you are looking to disconnect your personal account account from the Google Workspace domain.
However, to do that, you were suggested to either cancel or create a new admin to transfer the Google Workspace control.
You 3:39 AM
Yeaaaah, can you say with 99% certainty that wont nuke my accounts
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:41 AM
Yes, if you end up cancelling the account and deleting it, the personal Google Account reverts back to it's original state before it became connected to nooneeverywherellc.com.
Here is an article for reference when a personal @gmail.com is tied to a Google Workspace domain, https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/billing/cancel-google-workspace-for-gmail-accounts?hl=en&sjid=6205173843979796086-NC&visit_id=639127888147265825-1877941944&rd=1#:~:text=Personal%20data%20associated%20with%20these%20services%20is%20retained
You 3:44 AM
ok, so, will i be refunded?
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:44 AM
Once cancelled, you can sign up again for the domain directly to the Google Workspace page so that it will not be tied to your personal account. https://workspace.google.com/pricing
Yes, we can arranged that with billing as that is your first option.
For your second option, you will need to add another license or user so you can transfer the admin rights from fox@nooneeverywherellc.com before you can delete the fox@nooneeverywherellc.com in order to disconnect the personal account.
You 3:47 AM
you did read that paste right?
because you really should read that automation there
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:47 AM
Also the second option will require you additional task on transferring the management of the domain as it is also tied to fox@nooneeverywherellc.com.
Yes, I read the previous chat and also this scenario has happened before when the Google Workspace business plans were offered to Gmail users.
You 3:49 AM
again, a one person accoutn being stuck on that account transfering to that account
I realize you are limited on what you can do but really?
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:50 AM
Thank you for your I understanding. I get that you are concerned with the data tied to the allaunjsilverfox@gmail.com
You 3:50 AM
ok, escalate to your boss
this is not a solution and you are not helping
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:51 AM
I can guarantee that cancelling the account will revert back the allaunjsilverfox@gmail.com along with its data.
You 3:52 AM
No. NOw this is far beyond the pail
i am being patient but htat is not a solution. thats just passing the buck to me
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:52 AM
However, there are two ways to do that. Either the account is cancelled, I can speak to our billing team to refund the charges and remove the annual plan.
You 3:52 AM
I want a SOLUTION not a, welp, just ignore the bug
"Mary Grace, if you are telling me that Google's backend architecture is fundamentally incapable of separating a personal payments profile from a Workspace account without forcing the customer to cancel, refund, and rebuild their entire business domain, then I need a Manager or Tier 3 Escalation engineer to confirm that hard limitation to me in writing right now. >
Do not reply with the cancellation steps again. Transfer me to your supervisor immediately."
If google is incapable of solving a single database issue, we are all screwed
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:55 AM
I understand, I know that this is not a good experience. The same suggestion would be offered to you with from my superior.
Do you want us to call you or proceed via chat?
You 3:56 AM
proceed with chat, at this point, this is going to be a hacker news post
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 3:59 AM
I understand, please stay connected as I coordinate your case with a higher level of support.
I will be back in 3-5 minutes,
Hello Allaun,thank your for your patience.
You 4:02 AM
Hello.
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 4:02 AM
I will now connect this chat to my manager via chat. Do you have other concerns before I reroute this case?
You 4:02 AM
No, I know you are bound by rules you don't control. I hope your day goes well.
Google Workspace Support, Mary Grace 4:03 AM
Thank you for your understanding. Please stay connected.
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Google Workspace Support, Elaine 4:03 AM
Thank you for contacting Google Workspace Support. My name is Elaine and I'll be working with you today. While I read over your message, is there anything else you'd like to add? Before sharing any details, please make sure to remove any sensitive information (e.g., credit card numbers, passwords, or Government ID information).
You 59 mins ago
Yes, If you tell me that it's not possible to do a reversion on a database transformation, I'm going to have to ask how that is possible.
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 59 mins ago
Hi Brandon, I hope you are doing well today. I am one of Mary Grace's Managers.
Allow me to read the previous conversation here for 2-3 minutes. Thank you.
You 58 mins ago
Please, Do take your time. Not sarcasm. At this point, it's morbid curiosity.
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 58 mins ago
I appreciate your time and patience here. I'll get back to you.
Thank you for holding here, Brandon.
You 53 mins ago
No problem. I get it. You all have a rule book that can't be pushed back unless I do.
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 53 mins ago
Upon checking on the previous conversation, the main goal here is to separate your personal email address and your Google Workspace account. Right?
You 53 mins ago
yes. i honestly considered just doing it, but htis is a recurring problem in your help database
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 52 mins ago
I understand and thank you for the confirmation.
I checked your account here, and you subscribed to Google Workspace Individual using your personal email address and then you upgraded this account into a full Google Workspace account using the custom domain that you have.
You 51 mins ago
And can we take a moment to appreciate that a bug thats over,what? 10 years old? still exists when google is building edge case LLM transformers?
i mean, i get it, i do.
but its kind of kafka-esk
Especially when its escalated to the bottom tier of the enterprise ladder.
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 48 mins ago
What happened here is expected behavior, once you upgrade your Individual account to a full Google Workspace account using your custom domain it will merge your personal account into the Google Workspace account you created. I also understand that the previous Specialist provided you two options on how to separate them.
You 47 mins ago
no, i'm really ok risking it. i just wanted one person to sit with that fact that, a random guy on the internet, is having this conversation at all
i'm going to cancel the enterprise level and all, but man
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 46 mins ago
I completely understand where you are coming from and a feedback about this issue.
I know that you have also paid for the subscription and for the domain that you just purchased, we can definitely request for a refund for the domain registration and the Google Workspace Enterprise Standard subscription.
You 44 mins ago
Also, Side note. Not related per se. But Gemini has helped me find a novel nitrogenase N2-binding. A llm has help me refine ATOMIC models. ANd we are still doing this
i'm talking, fixed nitrogen for the planet
and this is where we are at
and that model? its universal
literally mapping other atomic spaces
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 43 mins ago
Oh that's very nice to know and thanks for letting me know about it as well.
You 42 mins ago
yep, have a good day. just wanted to share, since this conversation is going down in the logs on how things went
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 42 mins ago
Would you like us to proceed to cancel the Domain Registration and Google Workspace Enterprise Standard subscription and process the refund for you?
You 42 mins ago
yes, please
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 41 mins ago
Okay great! I'll be connecting you over to our Billing Team so they will help you in canceling all of the active subscription and process a refund for you and it is subject for approval.
Please stay connected in the chat for 3-5 minutes to complete my notes here so you don't need to explain the issue.
Thank you for holding Brandon. Before I connect you to the Billing Team about canceling the subscription and refund process, let me share you the steps first on how to delete the Google Workspace account.
You 35 mins ago
can i get the chat log number on this?
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 35 mins ago
Once you delete the whole Google Workspace account, there is a propagation time within 24 hours and you should be able to access again your personal email account and all of the data will remain there.
Here is the case number 70602242.
You 35 mins ago
Thank you, i'll redact all names, but htis is reddit minimum
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 34 mins ago
No problem and thank you as well. Just composing the steps here to delete the account.
4:31 AM
Delete the Organization Account Once all subscriptions are canceled (usually leaving only "Cloud Identity Free" if applicable), you can delete the entire account. 1. In the Admin console, go to Menu > Account > Account settings. 2. Click on Account management. 3. Click Delete Account. If this option is greyed out, it means you still have an active subscription, unmanaged users, or active Google Cloud projects. 4. Check the box to confirm you have read the implications. 5. Click Delete Account one final time. For your reference https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/billing/cancel-google-workspace
Are you still connected?
You 29 mins ago
yes
doing so
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 29 mins ago
Cool. Thank you. I'll be transferring this chat now to our Billing Team.
You 29 mins ago
In the reason for leaving, I'm putting, YOU BETRAYED SHIVA! Kali MAH! xD
Google Workspace Support, Elaine 28 mins ago
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